THE FOURTH WAY SYSTEM OF PSYCHOLOGICAL EVOLUTION
Slaves in Life
This passage from a transcript between Gurdjieff and his pupils is not clear to me. I'm not inclined to take it literally but it seems to be pointed in that direction.
[Page 17, Transcripts of Gurdjieff's Meetings 1941-1946]
Dr.Ab: What good is it to have slaves?
Gurdjieff: For life; if you haven't any slaves, you are the slave of someone.
Dr.Ab: Cannot everyone simply be equal?
Gurdjieff: Never. How is it possible? You have four eyes and I two. Already there is a difference. Your father loved your mother if he was lying to the left; my father loved my mother if he were lying on the right. The results I am one, you another. For me one law, for you another. The well-being of man is that everyone be his slaves. You say that the work has changed you. Thanks to the work you are no longer a merde; thanks to conscious labours and voluntary suffering. Objectively you deserve it.
Dr.Be: But shouldn't one give up using egoistically one's power over others?
Gurdjieff: Today you do it unconsciously; try to do it consciously. Then it will be good, both for them and for you. There is no other justice.
[Page 17, Transcripts of Gurdjieff's Meetings 1941-1946]
Dr.Ab: What good is it to have slaves?
Gurdjieff: For life; if you haven't any slaves, you are the slave of someone.
Dr.Ab: Cannot everyone simply be equal?
Gurdjieff: Never. How is it possible? You have four eyes and I two. Already there is a difference. Your father loved your mother if he was lying to the left; my father loved my mother if he were lying on the right. The results I am one, you another. For me one law, for you another. The well-being of man is that everyone be his slaves. You say that the work has changed you. Thanks to the work you are no longer a merde; thanks to conscious labours and voluntary suffering. Objectively you deserve it.
Dr.Be: But shouldn't one give up using egoistically one's power over others?
Gurdjieff: Today you do it unconsciously; try to do it consciously. Then it will be good, both for them and for you. There is no other justice.
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Permalink Reply by Greg W. Goodwin on -
Sounds like a complaint aimed at Gurdjieff by one of his 'rats'.
Gurdjieff described the people that left his ‘work’ as "rats for my experiments," at least in one volume of lore, the name of which is lost in the past.
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